Hour 1: Charlie Kirk: A Life Cut Short, A Nation Divided. Interview with Dr. Betsy McCaughey.
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Monday, October 13, 2025
Episode 66 explores the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk, tracing his rise, the tragic circumstances of his death, and the deeply polarized reactions that followed. From heartfelt tributes to workplace firings over inflammatory remarks, the episode reveals how Kirk’s legacy continues to spark fierce debate across America. The hour concludes with an interview featuring Dr. Betsy McCaughey—a constitutional scholar and former New York Lieutenant Governor—known for her sharp critiques of healthcare reform and government overreach. Holding a Ph.D. from Columbia, she’s a frequent conservative voice in media and policy circles. She also leads SAVENYC, an advocacy group focused on preserving the city’s safety, affordability, and quality of life.
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