Hour 2: Mic Drops & Meltdowns: When Celebrities Cross the Line. Interview with Eli Lopian
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Monday, July 28, 2025
Celebrity outbursts and provocative statements—from stage rants to political hyperbole—continue to ignite heated debates about fame, accountability, and the boundaries of free speech. The hosts examine several high-profile incidents, exploring whether criminal repercussions are ever warranted and how public figures shape cultural norms through their influence. The show ends with an interview featuring Eli Lopian, tech entrepreneur and CEO of Typemock, renowned for his innovations in automated testing and his thought leadership on AI-driven governance. His new book, AIcracy: Beyond Democracy, offers a bold vision for how artificial intelligence could reshape political systems to become more ethical, transparent, and responsive
