Candidates clash over Trump, costs and political divisions in New Jersey governor's debate
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8:31 AM on Sunday, September 21
By MIKE CATALINI
LAWRENCEVILLE, N.J. (AP) — Democrat Mikie Sherrill and Republican Jack Ciattarelli clashed over the economy, President Donald Trump’s leadership and political divisions as they faced off Sunday night for the opening debate in New Jersey’s high-stakes governor’s race.
It was a testy meeting for much of the night.
Ciattarelli often questioned the truthfulness of his opponent’s campaign, and Sherrill questioned the former CEO’s math skills, among other things. Members of the crowd shouted insults at times and were repeatedly hushed by the moderator.
Security was tight at the town hall-style debate at Rider University, which played out shortly after the memorial for slain conservative leader Charlie Kirk in Arizona.
The tense national climate looms over the contest in New Jersey, which has drawn intense interest from the White House, political activists and political leaders on both sides with Election Day just six weeks away.
Long considered a reliably blue state in national elections, New Jersey has swung between Republicans and Democrats during its odd-year gubernatorial elections. Trump lost here by just 6 points last fall, a credit to his appeal among the state’s large working-class population.
Here are some top takeaways from Sunday night’s 90-minute affair:
Trump, as he often does, played a central role in the debate even while being thousands of miles away at Kirk’s memorial.
Sherrill repeatedly sought to link Ciattarelli to the Republican president and his far-right MAGA movement. Trump lost New Jersey three times, although he performed better last year than in the previous elections.
“He’ll do whatever Trump tells him to do,” Sherrill said in her opening statement.
Ciattarelli did not criticize Trump or break with the Republican president on any issue, expressing support for his “big, beautiful" budget bill and his plans to end the Department of Education and revise national vaccine policies.
At the same time, he also tried to create some space between him and the president.
“My job is to advocate for the 9.3 million citizens of this state, and I’ll always do right by the citizens of this state, no matter who occupies the White House,” Ciattarelli said.
Both candidates weighed in on Kirk’s death, condemned political violence and vowed to defend free speech.
And yet there were few moments of unity on a night that featured several clashes. At one point, Sherrill questioned her opponent's math skills.
“I can see why your career as a CPA was so short lived, because your math just doesn’t add up, Jack," she jabbed.
Kirk's assassination fueled some of the most pointed moments of the night.
“She knows she’s in trouble in this campaign so this campaign is going to lie to you over and over again,” Ciattarelli said at one point when the debate shifted to taxes.
He also condemned Sherrill’s reaction to Kirk’s death.
“My opponent on Friday went down to Washington, voted ‘yes’ on a resolution to celebrate Charlie Kirk’s life, but then within minutes, sent out a statement that basically condemned him,” he said.
“That’s a neat trick to say you don’t want to divide people, and then in your answer, bring up something that’s very divisive,” Sherrill slapped back. “I can’t even imagine how the Kirk family feels, and that should never happen to anyone because they speak out.”
She also highlighted some of Kirk’s more divisive rhetoric and referenced ABC's suspension of late-night host Jimmy Kimmel after comments that he made about Kirk's killing.
“I think it is fair to have free speech, but I think it should go to everyone, to Jimmy Kimmel and to myself as well,” Sherrill said.
The candidates were still working to introduce themselves to voters who may just be starting to pay attention to the off-year election.
As she has for much of the campaign, Sherrill focused on her background as a Naval Academy graduate and Navy helicopter pilot. She was a federal prosecutor before being elected to Congress in 2018 in a longtime Republican-held district in northern New Jersey.
“I have a different kind of background, so I’m going to be a different kind of governor,” Sherrill said.
Ciattarelli, who is in his third bid for governor, played up his family’s roots in New Jersey, which he says go back a century. A certified public accountant, he owned a medical publishing company that he sold in 2017. He was a local and state elected leader before running for governor in 2017 and 2021.
“New Jersey, we need change. We need a hands-on CEO governor who is from New Jersey that knows exactly what needs to be done and is willing to do it,” Ciattarelli said.
Rising costs were a big focus. And the candidates clashed over what — and who — is to blame.
Sherrill blamed higher prices on the Republican president, his “big, beautiful bill” and his tariffs.
“All he does is say that Trump’s right — it’s okay to drive up your tariffs. It’s okay to have the one big, beautiful bill, which drives up your health care and utility costs,” she said. “Not on my watch.”
Ciattarelli sought to link New Jersey’s high tax rates to the Democrats who have run state government in recent years.
“The Democrats have controlled our state legislature for 25 years,” he charged. “The Democrats have controlled the executive branch, the governorship for eight years and look where we are today.”
